chuck
UNIT Member
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Blink
Jul 21, 2007 18:01:52 GMT -5
Post by chuck on Jul 21, 2007 18:01:52 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like David Tennant at the end of a season, "What? What? What?" Okay I give this ep a 9 out of 10, but...
does it make sense? Time paradoxes aside: when did the statues get the key to the TARDIS? And if one had the key and made the Doc and Martha go to the past, why didn't it just take the TARDIS? Surely the police didn't arrive as soon as they vanished? Who was observing the statues overnight while the TARDIS was there?
Why can't the Doctor, once he gets the TARDIS back, just pick up Kathy and the policeman right from the point they were taken? Would that then stop him from getting the TARDIS? Why couldn't the Doctor give her the message? ANd if the TARDIS was set via the key...how'd the Doctor reset it via 1969 (did he know it would be in 1969 he's be stranded from Sally's message to him in the end?)...and if the TARDIS appeared in 1969, why couldn't the Doctor take the policeman back?
I'm sure there's an answer someplace but I can't get my head arouind this "logic" as it really doesn't make much sense...
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Blink
Sept 17, 2007 19:06:02 GMT -5
Post by cindylouwho on Sept 17, 2007 19:06:02 GMT -5
While I loved this episode and found it rivoting, in retrospect, I agree with you. Definitely there were holes of this nature, however, it was still an enjoyable story and in the end, I'd rather have that than the reverse.
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Blink
Sept 27, 2007 11:11:55 GMT -5
Post by jenniearcheo on Sept 27, 2007 11:11:55 GMT -5
I thought this episode was behind-the-sofa scary, in that classic DW sense. Those were some darned freaky statues, and I loved the statue/gargoyle montage at the end. I thought it was well done, and I'm sure there were sequential reasons why things happened in the order they did, but I would get the biggest headache ever if I attempted to work it all out. So I won't bother. ;D
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saxon
Recruit
I am the Master. You will obey me.
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Blink
Nov 15, 2007 21:19:06 GMT -5
Post by saxon on Nov 15, 2007 21:19:06 GMT -5
I thought this episode was behind-the-sofa scary, in that classic DW sense. Those were some darned freaky statues, and I loved the statue/gargoyle montage at the end. ;D I definitely have to agree with this. This is the only new series episode I was scared of. And, yeah, this was really confusing in terms of plot. I think maybe it was just a standard TARDIS malfunction that took the TARDIS from the Doctor and the Angels maybe stole a duplicate key from a future Doctor/ Martha.
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Blink
Jan 14, 2008 16:31:58 GMT -5
Post by Mark Senior on Jan 14, 2008 16:31:58 GMT -5
It's hard to say about the key, but assuming there was some interference with the angels once they had it (nosey neighbour, a cat with a fixed stare, who knows?) the TARDIS had gone by the time they got round to using it and by the time they got back to the TARDIS Sally had the key.
The TARDIS was sent back to 1969 because of the information encoded on one of the DVDs and as far as we know the Doctor and Sally only met by chance a year later.
The Doctor couldn't 'save' the policeman or Cathy (who didn't want saving anyway, as they were happy in the past) because they were already dead by the time Sally sent the TARDIS back to him so he would have to change the time stream. And if he changed the time stream then Sally wouldn't have got the message on the DVDs and the whole thing wouldn't have happened the way it did.
In the original short story it was a TARDIS malfunction (it 'burped') but there were no angels to confuse the issue.
Anyway...wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey. It's enough of an answer.
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