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Post by cmyall on Sept 12, 2010 5:01:26 GMT -5
I have noticed the eleventh Doctor spin offs are placed in various locations for different reasons. But I would like to suggest the majority take place between Cold blood and Vincent and the Doctor:
1. Outfits: As they mostly seemed to be based on the photo-shoot outfits which are the Doctor in his red bow-tie and shirt and Amy in her Jacket, red top and miniskirt. The only time we see both of these on screen is in The Hungry Earth\Cold Blood.
2. Time without Rory: Logically there can be very few gaps in this story for 11\Amy solo adventures to take place:
Until the end of the Beast Below she is still wearing her nighty, which does not make an appearance.
Assumedly they headed straight to Winston in Victory (although still had time to change)
Flesh and Stone heads straight into Vampires [by implication anyway] and then Rory travels with them until the end of Cold Blood.
Rory rejoins them after Big Bang.
Furthermore, although I haven't read all the spin-offs, I don't believe any contain any mention of Rory, implying it is after he is wiped from existence.
3. Alien Planets: Amy implies in The Time of Angels that she has not seen an alien world so any stories set on alien planets are unlikely to be before this and, if amy is to be solo, would have to take place after Flesh and Stone (see above).
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Post by Mark Senior on Sept 12, 2010 13:23:16 GMT -5
Interesting, but...
1. I'm not sure that the covers are terribly representitive of the contents of the books (there ought to be a proverb about that).
2. Three of the novels published so far actually feature Rory, so between Vampires and Hungry makes more sense.
3. The Rory-less novels are not set on alien planets: one is in New York, another on the moonand the third on a floating pile of space junk. The audio release without Rory is set in Scotland.
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Post by cmyall on Sept 13, 2010 5:04:05 GMT -5
I was actually more referring to the more visual mediums with the outfits, e.g. the comics and the online games, (as indeed the covers for some of the audios seem to have the outfits from Time of Angels) and obviously I was excluding the rory inclusive stories from the list (although would obviously have to muse on whether during or after the series). In terms of planets it obviously leads to a bit of a debatable definition. Would Amy be pestering the Doctor for a trip to a real world after the moon and a giant piece of spacejunk or would she consider them essentially alien worlds to her mind. I suppose it would depend on looking through the etext and considering how she sees it.
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Post by Mark Senior on Sept 14, 2010 16:42:30 GMT -5
I see what you mean now. And of course, that definitely means that Buzz from the 2011 annual is in the wrong place because Rory is in it. But it could be argued that the moon isn't an alien planet and neither is the Gyre from Night of the Humans so those stories are (technically at least) in their correct positions.
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Post by boies00 on Sept 14, 2010 17:17:18 GMT -5
I didn't notice that Rory was in <I>Buzz</I>, so I moved it accordingly to the correct spot with the other stories featuring him.
Dom
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Post by marcusprime on Nov 22, 2010 22:27:53 GMT -5
In "Time of the Angels" Amy said in the beginning: "How about a planet? A big spaceship, Churchill's bunker. You promised me a planet next".
This doesn't seem to indicate there were any adventures going on that were not on screen before this point.
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Post by matty9896 on Jun 25, 2012 8:51:27 GMT -5
'The Eleventh Hour' to 'The Vampires of Venice' pretty much happen without any gaps at all, as implied by dialogue and such...
From then up to 'Cold Blood' all feature Rory, so not much can fit in there other than a couple of novels that have him in it...
In 'Vincent and the Doctor', the Doctor is trying to make it up to Amy about losing Rory (implied to be recent), so not much can fit in here...
The only proper gap in the whole of Series 5 can only be between 'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Lodger', as by then there is no mention by the Doctor of Rory and nothing linking it to the previous episode...
And at the end of 'The Lodger', Amy finds her wedding ring in The Doctor's pocket, and only questions it to him in 'The Pandorica Opens', so the gap there must be minimal.
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